Not at all. I think it's rather brave, it takes a lot of nerve to kill someone I sure as heck wouldn't have the guts to do it even given the perfect oppertunity. I think some people picked yes basely simply because they hate Bellatrix or they love Sirius or both.
I hate Bellatrix and adore Sirius, but I have to say no. It was face-to-face combat; he could just as easily have killed her. Cowardly would have been if she had been hiding behind something, or had shot him in the back, which clearly was not the case.
In he books she fought Sirius when he was fighting with her. In the books, which is what really occured because it was there first, Bellatrix was fighting a one on one battle with him in which he was totally focused on fighting her. After all Sirius had taunted her "Come on is that the best you've got?" right before she killed him.
If I'm correct Lucius was messing with Neville at that point in the books.
Why would it be cowardly? As said above, it was just a battle between two cousins, and both teams fought for death!
Bellatrix being a coward, is just untrue...
@ mr-cullen: Nope, she killed him during a battle, there were Deatheaters and Order members all about fighting eachother. I don't know of any soldier who in the midst of a battle would (after watching their enemy neutralise someone on their side) call out to their enemy, give away their position and then wait for their enemy to to be ready before attacking them. In the movie Harry and Sirius were not careful enough. They were both too focused on Lucius and did not pay attention to the rest of the battle. Bella appeared in plain sight and attacked the more skilled and dangerous wizard. She took the risk of Harry or any other order member killing/downing her in order to kill Sirius.
Its not really bravery or courage to murder someone, the reason you'd kill someone if is your mentally ill or if you were protecting yourself or another person. If I remember rightly, Bellatrix murdered Sirius when he was distracted by a joke, she killed him behind the back. Bellatrix didn't even kill him in a proper fight, she was clearly unable to face him properly. Coward.
Sirius and Bellatrix were fighting a face-to-face combat but I have to agree with koolamelia in one thing: It's not really bravery or courage to murder someone.
@ mr-cullen: This is not what I believe. I think Harry was very brave:
By your criterion then Harry is a bigger coward than Bella. Bella appeared right in front of both Sirius and Harry after Sirius had hexed Lucius and hexed Sirius. Sirius and Harry were just too slow to react.
Harry cast a hex to kill Snape while Snape was walking away and had his back turned away from Harry in Half Blood Prince.
@ ComoLoca- Yes but, Harry was very disturbed and distressed at that time when Snape killed Dumbeldore. Harry wasn't thinking right and reacted how I bet everyone would react if your father (or fatherly figure) had just been murdered by someone he trusted.
Plus, Harry never intended to kill Snape, only to hurt.
Bellatrix is always disturbed and distressed, she has mental problems, that's never an excuse for her to hurt people so why is it an excuse for Harry? Bellatrix had fought a face to face battle with Sirius in both the movie and books. Now I'm not saying you should go out and murder people, but murder isn't cowardly honestly, I would never have the guts to kill someone.
Like I said, Harry was almost mentally posessed by hatred. You're right, Bellatrix never had a right to hurt someone but Harry had more right. Snape had murdered someone and Harry was getting revenge, surely its better hurting someone for revenge rather than for fun?
@ koolamelia: Sorry, but that's not true. Harry did not want to just hurt Snape, he wanted to kill him. Harry himself said so repeatedly that he would kill Snape when he got his hands on him. Plus he knew exactly what the spell (Sectumsempra) did as he saw the results of it when he cast it on Draco. He meant for Snape to bleed to death.
Harry wanting to and trying to kill Snape after witnessing Dunbledore's "murder" is understandable. However if we are to use mr-cullen's criterion for what makes a person a coward, hexing Snape as his back was turned and while he was obviously walking away makes Harry a coward. The logic follows that in order not to have been branded a coward Harry should have shouted out a warning to Snape, waited for Snape to be ready to defend himself and then tried to cast the hex at Snape.
Again, I don't think Harry is a coward. I'm just trying to point out the flaw in mr-cullen's argument
Bellatrix is also mentally possessed by her love (a good emotion) for Voldemort. Harry had no more right then her, revenge is never the answer it clouds the mind and carupts the soul. Hurting someone for love is better then for revenge.
I may have got the hurting bit wrong but still, what I said about Harry taking revenge on Snape is understandable unlike Bellatrix's hobby for murdering.
If your Dad died, you're not likely to become best buddies with his murderer are you?
I don't think Harry knew the full extend of the spell, I think he used it in a moment of rush.
Bellatrix's love for Voldemort (in my personal opinion which you are intitled to think differently) is a sort of obsessive love, love that you wouldn't think twice about having in your right mind. But Bellatrix was a bit of a nutter in the first place.
Yes she was a nutter, yes, she was hateful, yes, she had no compassion, yes she was evil and yes I would not like her in real life. However, she was not a coward and she did not kill Sirius in a cowardly way. I suggest mr-cullen that you watch the clip yourself. Bella was in the middle of a battle. She appeared directly in front of Sirius and Harry and she cast her spell after Lucius had been dealt with. Bella was in essence facing 2 powerful wizards when she hexed Sirius. That both Sirius and Harry were too slow to react does not make her a coward.
Again I agree with you koolamelia that Harry's reaction was understandable. I was just trying to point out that if we are to use mr-cullen's argument that Bella was a coward because she didn't give Sirius any warning then the same can be applied to Harry.
There! I watched th clip nd you have just proved yourself wrong! Sirius was a better Wizard than Bellatrix, she could never win and she knew it. She didn't even try and just went straight in for the kill. Bellatrix. Is. A. Coward. End. Of. Story. Full. Stop.
We must be looking at different scenes then. From this link I saw:
1)Sirius hexing Malfoy
2)Malfoy flying through the air and landing
3)Bella's smoky self landing on top of what looks like a rock and in plain view of everyone including Harry and Sirius, becoming solid and casting the spell on Sirius.
It's not like she popped out of thin air. She was a trail of black smoke flying through the air that landed on the rock where everyone could easily have seen her. If Sirius and Harry had been paying attention to their surroundings as they should have been instead of focussing totally on Lucius, they would have seen Bella approaching and been able to do something about it. Even Bella looked surprised that she managed to kill Sirius. It's as if she expected it to have been harder.
Notice also that she did not attack Remus or Harry while Remus held on to Harry. They were clearly not fighting at that stage and made for very easy targets.
^ That's what I saw as well. I think some people here are biasly call g her a coward because they hate her. And I so agree, she cpulvr killed Harry, Reamus, or Hermione while they were off guardbut she went for the one who was fully awear that she was targeting him. I also agree, she was shocked about his death just like Harry. Considering the fact that it was a jet of red light, not the killing curse, (meaning she hadn't inteded to kill him) in the book she was surprised that the veil had killed him. In all honesty seeing as Sirius was her cousin, in the movies she seemed a little upset about his death, perhaps she only started mocking him to cover up her sadness.
In regards to koolima's (sorry for the crappy spelling of your username) statement; I totally disagree Bellatrix, especially in the booms was trying to fight Sirius she gave it her all and didn't think she could lose. Where in the clip did Bellatrix show any sign of thinking she'd lose, she was very confidant and faced him directly. As said above in regards to the books she mat not gave even aimed to kill him, I mean who would expect knocking someone through an arch would kill them. In regards to the movies it's a duel, any method of victory is acceptable, both parties were aiming to kill.
I find it super annoying how Bellatrix gets criticized for cursing people and murder and it can't be justified, yet when anyone from the good side kills someone it is okay it can be justified. If Sirius had killed Bellatrix in that battle he'd be a saint. It would've been self defense. Keep in mind people Bellatrix was also fighting for her life there, yet when she kills Sirius self defense has nothing to do with it and the fact that they were suing goes out the window and she just killed him for fun. Bellatrix tortures people for fun she doesn't kill them for fun.
Actually, when I saw the clip, I saw Sirius hex Lucius then Bellatrix sneak behind his back and kill him without Harry (who was standing right next to Sirius) confused about what just happened. Doesn't that show that Bellatrix clearly wasn't visible and disappirated right behind them?
I don't recall any of The Order murdering anyone in that mini battle. I can understand what your saying, it must be annoying if someone from the good side kills someone and its alright but if someone from the bad side kills, its really bad. But if you take Molly for instance and when she killed Bellatrix, she did it for her children who was probably killed by Bellatrix aswell. Molly was taking revenge and who can blame her? Bellatrix tortures and (I bet) murders for fun too, that's wrong and that's why people don't like it. Molly kills for revenge and for her children.
^^ Look at where the curse hit Sirius. If Bella had been behind Sirius then the curse would have travelled past Harry and then hit Sirius on his back. It clearly didn't. The curse hit Sirius on his front left side. Harry was standing behind Sirius. The reason Harry didn't see Bella was because he was too focused on the battle between Sirius and Lucius. And for that matter so was Sirius. They were just too careless and Bella got lucky
If I'm correct Lucius was messing with Neville at that point in the books.
Bellatrix being a coward, is just untrue...
Even so I go by the books because a,that's how Rowling intended the battle to go and b, Sirius was actually dueling Bella.
By your criterion then Harry is a bigger coward than Bella. Bella appeared right in front of both Sirius and Harry after Sirius had hexed Lucius and hexed Sirius. Sirius and Harry were just too slow to react.
Harry cast a hex to kill Snape while Snape was walking away and had his back turned away from Harry in Half Blood Prince.
Plus, Harry never intended to kill Snape, only to hurt.
Harry wanting to and trying to kill Snape after witnessing Dunbledore's "murder" is understandable. However if we are to use mr-cullen's criterion for what makes a person a coward, hexing Snape as his back was turned and while he was obviously walking away makes Harry a coward. The logic follows that in order not to have been branded a coward Harry should have shouted out a warning to Snape, waited for Snape to be ready to defend himself and then tried to cast the hex at Snape.
Again, I don't think Harry is a coward. I'm just trying to point out the flaw in mr-cullen's argument
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If your Dad died, you're not likely to become best buddies with his murderer are you?
I don't think Harry knew the full extend of the spell, I think he used it in a moment of rush.
Again I agree with you koolamelia that Harry's reaction was understandable. I was just trying to point out that if we are to use mr-cullen's argument that Bella was a coward because she didn't give Sirius any warning then the same can be applied to Harry.
1)Sirius hexing Malfoy
2)Malfoy flying through the air and landing
3)Bella's smoky self landing on top of what looks like a rock and in plain view of everyone including Harry and Sirius, becoming solid and casting the spell on Sirius.
It's not like she popped out of thin air. She was a trail of black smoke flying through the air that landed on the rock where everyone could easily have seen her. If Sirius and Harry had been paying attention to their surroundings as they should have been instead of focussing totally on Lucius, they would have seen Bella approaching and been able to do something about it. Even Bella looked surprised that she managed to kill Sirius. It's as if she expected it to have been harder.
Notice also that she did not attack Remus or Harry while Remus held on to Harry. They were clearly not fighting at that stage and made for very easy targets.
In regards to koolima's (sorry for the crappy spelling of your username) statement; I totally disagree Bellatrix, especially in the booms was trying to fight Sirius she gave it her all and didn't think she could lose. Where in the clip did Bellatrix show any sign of thinking she'd lose, she was very confidant and faced him directly. As said above in regards to the books she mat not gave even aimed to kill him, I mean who would expect knocking someone through an arch would kill them. In regards to the movies it's a duel, any method of victory is acceptable, both parties were aiming to kill.
I find it super annoying how Bellatrix gets criticized for cursing people and murder and it can't be justified, yet when anyone from the good side kills someone it is okay it can be justified. If Sirius had killed Bellatrix in that battle he'd be a saint. It would've been self defense. Keep in mind people Bellatrix was also fighting for her life there, yet when she kills Sirius self defense has nothing to do with it and the fact that they were suing goes out the window and she just killed him for fun. Bellatrix tortures people for fun she doesn't kill them for fun.
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